My wife runs a small dairy farm here on a small island in Scotland, and recently we have begun pasteurising our milk for sale in local shops. I think Organic Valley’s new grass fed milk is not. 6, Pages 509-514.Reply (I live alone and ordinarily use only a dash of milk on my cereal, so that I cannot finish a quart before it goes bad.). Thank you for this information. Artificial foods began during WWII so that troops could carry such products as C rations and K rations and dry Tang they could mix with water on their body where there were no mess tents on the battlefields. If you don’t have access to raw milk, here are some healthy milk alternatives. In US cows can be fed from chicken crap processed with beef meat reprocessed. What are you basing this statement on? Lore Ronding Scheidt via Facebook saysI wish I had my own garden, cow and chickens. Greg saysSeriously, you people have food paranoia.The only down side of UHT milk is that it tastes horrible to most people.So heating milk to high temperatures alters the structure making it harder to digest leading to digestion problems? The best I can find is full fat, non-homogenized. Please correct this misleading statement. Thousands (millions?) Sell it to someone or give it away if you don’t want it. Authors deliberately create controversy to get more traffic, comments, debates, etc. Unless you know someone who will give you the milk, it’s allowed in your state or you own a dairy farm those who live in major cities or like me, Hawaii where it is illegal to sell raw milk let alone has very little dairy cows I won’t have access to it. They’ll know. I prefer my food just the way God intended it. Third gender, or third sex, is a concept in which individuals are categorized, either by themselves or by society, as neither man nor woman.It is also a social category present in societies that recognize three or more genders.The term third is usually understood to mean "other"; some anthropologists and sociologists have described fourth, fifth, and "some" genders. before the times of adulterated food, we didn’t have to think scientifically when it came to food. Americans have some of the world’s most unhealthy food and drink, and most of it is sold to them by one of four or five massive companies that own the entire food supply chain in the US. The contents with valuable information (often mixed) in with extremes, not to mention followed by gloomy and even impractical suggestions. You mention not being able to make Yoghurt from UHT Milk. At present they are treated with almost completely manufactured protein and sugar assemblies that hopefully include all essential nutrients (elemental formulas). It’s STILL sold from refrigerated cases. 300mg each day. Hi Lara, after going on A2 dairy exclusively as you suggested, I came accross an interesting fact in my research, that I thought is worth sharing. I wish I could buy Parmalat here so I could keep it on the shelf at work until I need to open it. The USA companies thinks UHT milk ought to be higher premium price milk. First of all, let me mention that we ourselves and our children drink the milk raw, and have done for many years. I can’t believe dairy was doing that to me! I had no idea New Horizons used the same pasteurization methods as paramalat. All the emotionally intelligent have come out of the closet or just now able to step up to the plates. B. Margate Tasnmania. Non UHT grassfed organic non-homogenized cow milk the rest of they year. Just a white beverage. People who don’t form BCM7 from A1 casein can tolerate normal dairy and most people can tolerate A2 dairy, which is dairy that doesn’t contain A1 casein. How many cows have you killed by your milk or meat consumption? I started bovine colostrum some months ago – another try to heal my gut a bit. Lindsay Byrne saysI believe ultra high temp milk is different from ultra pasteurized milk. I cannot do a vegan lifestyle but other people can. It sounds horrible..! I know that I’m not “lactose intolerant” as yoghurt and cheese are not giving me any problem at any time, so, after reading your blog (I just thought “I knew it!”) I’m not really sure about: I stopped it yesterday, but these months has been an mast cell and hormonal hell. Iâm not saying, this particular author is doing this âintentionallyâ, I just notice a common theme with alternative nutrition articles and functional medicine articles loosely using scary headlines. I say ‘most likely’ because horizon dairy is owned by a GMO company. I have been wondering for awhile whether something had changed with that particular milk and maybe it could be something that is upsetting my system. Raw milk makes the best yogurt I’ve ever had.Reply I also asked another friend with period pain about a history of tonsilitis (which she had). It tastes absolutely fine to me. It’s a fluke that we are genetically capable od drinking milk as adults. As a woman with PCOS, I have been trying to incorporate one serve of full-fat dairy daily but now I am wondering if this is doing me damage as I also have a history of fibroids and recurrent tonsillitis? I asked a former dairy farmer and he replied, “my son buys trailer loads for his dairy cows.”. It wasnât. I feel normal and i dont have ANY issues any longer. The inflammatory part of milk is the protein casein, so switching to lactose-free may not help much. In essence, a denatured protein is already broken up before entering the body as opposed to being broken up in the stomach by acids. It doesn’t sell as fast as the less expensive milk and therefore a longer shelf life is required.Drinking unpasteurized milk is rolling the dice on health. I discovered this post while doing some hormone research. I’m sure you know this already. When you go off dairy, do you go on to other foods? Desert Farms’ camels live in small family farms all across Europe where the average herd is about 6 camels. The same will happen in China as people realise the bad health issues from this UHT product. )I think I’m gonna keep buying UHT milk and pride myself on not having standards so hyperattenuated that I’m going to reject a food that is for all reasonable purposes harmless and tastes perfectly bloody fine to most of us.Reply Thanks! Taste – Spicy taste, more sourness and less of sweetness. If everyone went back to raw milk all of these diseases would return. I mean, you are drinking the bodily fluids of an animal that poops all over itself and its friends. I make excellent yoghurt with UHT milk. and recombined ultra high temperature treated milk during storage. So many things wrong with this opinion piece. I hope more people find it in their neighborhoods. I always bring a spare unopened one too in case it smells funny (if it ridiculously hot outside) and it doesn’t go bad until it is opened. Also a raw milk from Sprouts. Pasteurization Of Milk Proteins Promotes Allergic Sensitization By Enhancing Uptake Through Peyerâs Patches. Since the raw milk mania has taken root the outbreaks of listeriosis and milk borne illness have increased ten fold. For example, always going for grass fed beef sounds environmentally green on paper until you realize some aren’t locally sourced. Most of Europe has used UHT milk for drinking, cooking, and more for decades, and has not seen mass death, dismemberment, or defects as a result. She stopped using this milk about a week ago but still has the symptoms. After opened I can camp for a whole week and it will not go bad (at least if it isn’t 90 degrees outside). I tried to make yogurt with it and it just won’t culture. So it doesn’t matter if UHT breaks down proteins, it is just saving a step that would normally happen 30 seconds after drinking milk anyway. Ian Batchelor saysFound your comments interesting on U H T milk. athos saysThank you. Gaha saysCouldn’t agree more. And I am upset, frankly, that Canada does not have a very large production of it.Reply They’ll know. David I saysA few simple points:–I agree that raw milk has beneficial properties that pasteurized milk does not have. One does not necessarily need to heat before adding the culture only after in the sun until is warms well then can be kept at room temp until thickened. Go figure?!:!?! This milk is also good for making yogurt. UHT is the answer. Don’t have any of the period problems mentioned or childhood infections. As long as one buys organic milk from cows that aren’t juiced with antibiotics, his or her gut flora will be fine. Bethany Hope Perkins via Facebook says…than conventional?Reply I’d been a raw milk drinker for years. You embarrass us Americans and give us the reputation of ignorant.As for the smallness of Europe kitchens and fridges, it’s all fine when you are there living it. Could A1 casein be an issue for me if I didn’t have that childhood issue link? That way, you retain the nutritional value of dairy, but remove and potentially inflammatory effect (That yes, could be affecting your fertility). Without an open mind I would not have known I do best on the old traditional atkins (not the overly advertised new atkins) with whole foods as well as foods that are processed minimally. “Moo-glues” were developed as industrial glues and adhesives and snuck in dairy products as “milk protein concentrates” (MPC), “ultra-filtered milk” (UF), now pitched under the most recent deceptive term” “high protein milk” to keep consumers in the dark through mis-leading labelling. hoat or sheep products other than goat milk or it is OK goat milk .. camel milk .. Hi, I’m an asian pcos woman, but I’m thin… I heard that pcos is tend to genetic… so I’m desperated…. I have been buying the shelf variety for many years but for some reason my body has decided to break out in a rash, scabs, of which five doctors have no answers too. Rubbish. “Now, almost all of the organic milk and the majority of conventional milk available in U.S. supermarkets is UHT processed.” While this is true for the organic milk, it is absolutely not true for conventional milk. I’m so excited to have found a local farm that sells it. boxes of UHT milk just because of an article that quotes nothing at all scientific to back it up. Learn more here. Jennifer saysI have heard that it is because of the UHT that expiration dates on organic milk are so much farther out than regular milk.My question though is where do I find a raw milk supplier? My daughter has just started her menstruation, she is 11. I’m ALWAYS done by day 6. Sandra, could you just send it with a reusable ice pack? Well folks, milk is not the only food and not the cause of every ailment anyone may have. So soon it will be mad cow, mad pig, mad goat, mad turkey…. Way more efficient. I grew up on a dairy farm consuming only raw milk and butter made from raw milk. If so can you please provide me the medical journal information so I may read the studies about UHT milk and autoimmune disease myself? which appears to be food, can’t be good for our bodies. Local and raw only for me. Raw milk is undeniably better – if you’re drinking /raw milk/. Nor does cows milk from the heritage breeds like Jersey, Gurnsey, French Normande, etc. Um, OK this is based on what exactly? If you want more help deciding how to prioritize your milk purchases, check out this post on Healthy Milk: What To Buy. That is why I drink hazelnut milk. We love good, clean tasting milk too much to move back. The only dairy I’ve been eating and is Whole30 compliant is ghee. Karla Pengsagun saysYour link to the Weston Price foundation needs to be updated to, Does it make sense to drink the growth hormones found in a cow? Obviously, the people that are saying there is nothing with UHT have an agenda! “Itâs beneficial bacteria that line our gut that help the human body to develop appropriate immune responses” It’s dead. I have both books and can’t find this exactly . In Australia by law UHT milk cannot have any additives unless it’s a flavored drink and then just normal milk flavorings and coloring’s that you would find in any floured milk drink (Strawberry, Banana, Ice Coffee etc). Loved this! The connection between it and cancer of the reproductive organs was established by the late professor Jane Plant et al (the same scientist who discovered the health benefits of Selenium). Maybe you can shed some light on the situation. Also, have you contacted your local Weston A Price chapter leader? Not to mention all the other bacteria that we were never meant to handle. There is such a thing as âpicking and choosing your battlesâ and just enjoying your food! UHT milk is in use for decades in Europe and there is no issue with drinking it.Reply Lorinda saysMy daughter is 24 and recently developed an allergy (she has never been allergic to anything before) We suspect that it coud be longlife milk or something in it that causes the allergy as this is the only change she has made to her diet (she used to stay at home where we never used longlife milk and now lives on her own and now only uses this stuff) Her lips swell up like balloons and she gets these itchy red blotches. It’s not. Never have I or anyone I know had burnt milk.The reason for this is UHT milk is heated to 72Â°C (161.6Â°F) for at least 15 seconds, The longer time at a lower temperature lowers the chances of the milk burning while sterilizing the milk!In Australia by law UHT milk cannot have any additives unless it’s a flavored drink and then just normal milk flavorings and coloring’s that you would find in any floured milk drink (Strawberry, Banana, Ice Coffee etc).Unflavored UHT is 100% Milk with nothing added, The laws in australia are very strict about saying whats in our food and drinks!Reply UHT is find, I have been drinking it for years and in some cases its better for those who have issues with other milk products. Yes the taste is a little different, personally, I like the taste. I wanted to say that in Australia and NZ, “Holstein”cows are known as “Friesians’ (We got them from Holland originally). Evita saysI have now read a few of your articles . We’ve been refrigerating our milk for decades. Hap saysHummm. Suck it the feck up and accept what food we have available. (Have tried all kind of diets, but have realized that I do best when I find out what works best for me and not follow a diet with a name that someone tells me to do. Perhaps nostalgia plays a role in it, but I’m glad it exists.Reply The same as Pasteurization. I have been ‘taken off’ red meat for some time and encouraged to eat a more plant-based diet, but do not feel better doing this, and also do not wish to lose muscle mass. One comment about pasteurised & UHT milk chronically stressing the immune system – from an *owner of a dairy* – and zero scientific research to back it up. A couple of companies are trying to market UHT milk to Canadians. Anyone?? What happens to the vitamins and minerals in raw milk when it is treated to UHT processing? The government is clearly hell bent on destroying all good things in the world. It’s fine, it’s an acquired taste, just like sea urchin or rabbit.Reply Think of all the energy (which is produced burning coal and oil) that we would not need to use if we didn’t refrigerate our milk while it is in transit and in the store. MBHinBH saysI’be been a raw milk drinker for the past couple years but am currently pregnant and don’t feel it worth the risk to myself and my baby to continue raw dairy through the pregnancy. See my blog post about normal period pain vs endometriosis. Sandy saysDavid, Thanks for the point about the temperatures at which yogurt is made. Every once in awhile I will buy fresh milk if I need to drink it. When I ask for a coffevwith REAL MILK they just show a UHT container andvwhen you questionnthem they have no idea what it is. I would use whole organic milk for children and infants though because they can use the extra calories and vitamins. Frost saysI wouldn’t follow the eating habits of a country whose #1 cause of death is heart disease. Yuck! I want to improve on hormone therapy rather than surgery. I would really welcome any further comments on clarification on this issue from readers! You shoukd stop following people on the internet and start observing how the hell they live longer in other countries. I took myself off dairy entirely and started to consume more green tea (even bought green tea capsules) and bam! I got Horizon Organic UHT milk thinking it would be a good (safe) substitute. Unflavored UHT is 100% Milk with nothing added, The laws in australia are very strict about saying whats in our food and drinks! The milk proteins are complex and three dimensional, meant to be broken down when digested by special enzymes that fit into the proteins like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. There was no noticeable difference in taste but this may be different with cows milk. I am a senior researcher in chemistry and nutrition from London. Please note who attacks UHT milk…those who compete with this technology. fresh milk in glass jars–The ice wagon delivers ice for your ice box too, I’ll bet? Please let me know your thoughts. . If you consider that a harm.Reply I just want to know if it’s possible to have an issue with A1 casein without the link to respiratory illnesses as a child. If the milk is certified organic it does not have any added chemicals or preservatives. I have drunk UHT milk on and off (called sterilised milk at the time) since the early years of WWII. Tracy saysIt’s almost impossible anymore to get real cream or even half-and-half anymore that isn’t some kind of UHT. I never liked to drink any other milk & I am 68 now. Actually, I *do* “freak out” about those things, and I don’t buy them or feed them to my family. While it is true UHT can change the taste or smell of milk, there is absolutely NO scientific evidence that it is less healthy then raw milk. (3) Also, I need to increase my B12, what is the best way to take a B12, shot, under the tongue liquid or another way?.. Neither one is better (or worse) than the other?Reply Consumers and farmers all lose under these dairy iNDUSTRY lies. I just won’t do it. In general, it can be ok to combine those supplements, but please check with your doctor. But I was under the impression that the sale of raw milk was illegal, even through a CSA by buying parts of a cow….Reply Since, we had more than a few experiences of the same type, and were heating the milk to just below boiling for three minutes to save ourselves the agony of more illness, even though it was my understanding that we were denaturing both proteins and vitamins(although UHT had probably done that denaturing already). Food Renegade, you don’t add salt when soaking almonds? Question is, Are the additives they are putting in the milk organic? How can you possibly think that the bacteria found naturally in cow milk is completely safe for human consumption? Max Welsh saysYES to the above comment. Peter Kramer saysI should also mention that differences in immunogenicity for processed milks are not primarily due to changes in digestibility of various protein fractions. If you do this, you have exposed your milk to far more heat than UHT pasterization does. I do occasionally buy “organic” milk when away from home or as back up. 2001, International Journal of Food Sciences and Nutrition, Vol. Drink your milk and enjoy it. Even though what we drink isn’t UHT, it’s still nasty stuff. Most of the Western European countries consume mainly UHT milk – it’s a common household stable and it’s convenience is fantastic!I say yes to UHT milk any day! However, Recombined UHT milk is lower, and is ssignificantly lower after storage for six months. The UHT Procdess has little more effect on the goodness of the milk. I could explain the microbiology of the germ cycle but no need..most here wouldn’t know what is a Petri prep. Next the GI, wants to check my gall bladder. Sigh…. She immediately became extremely ill with vomiting and ran a 41CÂº fever for three days, a fever we had to keep down with compresses day and night. And I did okey with undenatured whey before I started the colostrum… So I am really doubtful that it is all of the hormones in colostrum that causes problems for me. Naturally occurring bacteria isn’t the only stuff that can be in milk, other stuff could get in during the production. I grew up drinking lots of whole milk. Janelle saysI just read on the Daisy brand website that their products are pasteurized and homogenized, actually I found out most sour cream brands are homogenized!! It has practically no stimulant effect on the central nervous system. …and maybe because it seems “unnatural” for it to not need refrigeration. it is pretty much white water with calories by the time it is done with the ultra treatment. UHT milk is dead dead dead. Switched to Jersey and her severe reactions to milk stopped immediately.Reply Hi Lara, I have been off of dairy (and gluten) for a month after my doctor diagnosed me with those food allergies. No one can thrive on overly cooked and processed milk.Reply before the times of adulterated food, we didn’t have to think scientifically when it came to food. Not even remotely.I drink organic soy or rice milk. My dilemma is how to make our lattÃ©s without pasteurizing the milk. Yoghurt made from UHT milk is delicious!! “These were healthy, active people who came down with debilitating, lifelong diseases.”What is your response to this?? Crystal Mazey via Facebook saysNow that I’ve been drinking raw milk for a few years, store bought stuff just looks really odd and tastes almost fake. Freedom of choice. Usually, goat milk is gentler, but it’s possible it’s affecting your periods. Your real focus should perhaps be not the silliness involved in not realising UHT does need to be in the fridge after opening, but the growth hormones that have been shown to have a DIRECT link (not an indirect one) to causing cancer in humans, that you routinely pump your cows full of there.Reply No one can thrive on overly cooked and processed milk. I’m here to see if UHT destroys oestrogen. Well, unless you have a cow in your backyard, you don’t really know what you are drinking “in your milk”, they don’t write on the package what a farmer has been feeding the cow…. Sure, you can put it on your cereal, but there’s little else you can do with it. Even when we “have” to drink the pasteurized stuff, we still have a few options. The protein doesn’t get ‘damaged’; our bodies absorbs the exact same amino acids from the protein whether we cook it or not, whether it is UHT or not. I went to the fancy grocery store and really poked around and managed to find some full-fat, cream-top milk that was not UHT. Are there any studies that link the onset of your period with dairy consumption? we are milkmen and we like David Gumpert’s new book;“THE RAW MILK REVOLUTION – Behind America’s Emerging Battle Over Food Rights.”Read this and follow through with some of his suggestions or just make plans. A once committed vegetarian professor from stanford stated the superiority of atkins in this regard. On the other hand countries like Argentina; Uruguay; Korea and Japan..they push free range grass feed for cows in milk production. Hi Lara, I read and loved your book. I appreciate the supporting the documentation you provided. It’s worth asking the farmer if you can. It was so lovely to meet you and get to know you a bit at the Ancestral Health Symposium in Queenstown. Thanks! I have doe it many, many times–The bacteria in kefir and yogurt eat the sugars in the milk, not the proteins or enzymes. Hot outside temperatures, less efficient equipment, intensive-labor handling practices, frequent (sometimes daily) electrical outages, poorer road conditions and higher incidence of numerous diseases all combine to make UHT a best practice for fluid dairy products such as North Americans take for granted. I appreciate the passion in articles such as this, but unscientific generalizations negate credibility.Reply Australia. Statistics prove that this has worked. https://www.foodrenegade.com/healthy-milk-substitutes-with-recipes/Reply I have casein morphine effect and with UHT milk I can drink milk without a problem. But, according to them, regular store-bought milk is fine. It does go bad eventually. Living here in the U.S. Not everyone can drink raw milk: please read about listeria. I am a senior researcher in chemistry and nutrition from London.Reply I was also advised not to drink it, something which I most assuredly had no intention of doing. I love uht milk. I puzzle doctors all the time. Just a thought!I drink milk of all kinds, so I’m not trying to antagonize. *Bad nutrition. Now is time to start hitting home runs.We have a good read for you to demonstrate how we feel about these subjects you write about. The problem with this whole raw milk vs other milk issue is that not everyone will have access to raw milk itself. You will always find a supporting piece of science when it comes to food and drugs to support your bend. My gynaecologist wants me to try a Mirena but I’m putting off that in case I can fix my pain naturally. Are you able to find raw milk in Ontario?? I started the supplements that you mention but I’m unsure how to take iodine (put it on the skin, mix with water and drink?) Also, labeling others as uneducated before stating something you want them to believe is not exactly the way to convince people of your ideas and thoughts. It tastes absolutely fine to me. Also, I should clarify about Jersey cows. I thought this was not possible! same in Australia uht is fresh and we have full cream pasteurized as fresh. Raw, generally not sold in supermarkets, fresh pasturised in full cream, 2% or fat free, which only lasts a couple of days in the fridge, and the same three choices of long life (your UHT) and lactose free, usually soya milk. Thank you very much for your article. There are legal loopholes. And when people crack open a carton, they still need to refrigerate it. UHT milk does not pose a health risk, and by the very fact that it is UHT and has less microbial contamination, itâs probably SAFER. I have a niece that has permanent kidney damage from drinking raw milk as a child. Medicine has to be free when illness is government policy.Reply Or any of these I haven’t found a substitute for cream in the coffee, or for really good cheese, but in general, milk isn’t really in my diet very much any more. Angela saysSaying that yoghurt or kefir cannot be made from UHT milk is simply incorrect! Look what happened to the Great American Indians. Cow’s milk (organic or non, pasteurized or raw) is in no way a ‘necessary’ thing for anyone’s health, or most of the world would’ve died off from lack of it thousands of years ago (see Africa and most of Asia). If it doesn’t get absorbed in your intestines, it never enters your bloodstream. They sell them warm, sitting on tables the way we sell donuts in the grocery store.You are so wrong… Please live in Germany and take your fears there and tell them about the terrible food they eat, terrible health care they have, and how they are going to UHT drink their way to a early death. Do you know what denatured proteins are? Lenny saysWhat about zoonotic diseases that can be contacted via drinking of raw milk? I would dispute this. Hi, I recently bought your book. There is an amazing kefir stand near my work and it’s such a great snack! No responses from the op either. One offering is not homogenized as well. Qualities. Since finding out that they use it too I have asked them not to give it to my son however they ignore my request and have continued to do so. the milk that is meant “for the calf” is produced only for a short time after birth. Unfortunately there is so many additives being put in everyday foods it’s hard to work out what might be the problem. Probably not. Now..why last longer..? And here’s a link to a reference that actually works. I’m loving the effects of being dairy-free but also missing dairy tremendously! As a child it would make me feel very sick and give me a headache if I drank. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Lets try that on a human being and see how long you all want to drink milk. Can you comment on cheese and full fat yogurt. I’m a milk-a-holic and drink over a gallon a day born and raised in the United States. Not any more. I’m not sure. A few places did not stock it! And she says drinking raw milk has got to be one of the dumbest things you could do for your health. Helena Ellison via Facebook saysI drink Organic Valley Milk.Reply It only lasts for the day and will get diarrhea evey time I consume milk that day and some mild cramping also. You are so wrong… Please live in Germany and take your fears there and tell them about the terrible food they eat, terrible health care they have, and how they are going to UHT drink their way to a early death. When I buy vegetables in Ireland, they look like vegetable but certainly do not taste like one . This piece is devoid of factual information.Reply With the alternative zealots – but this article truly was off base. For most people, there will be no issues associated with drinking UHT milk. Sigh…. So lucky to live in an area where I have access to these wonderful things! Please read my comment policy for more on how I expect readers to conduct themselves in this site’s discussions. The fact that Lee Dexter is associated with a non-pasteurized dairy would lead me to doubt that the article on UHT is unbiased. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if God intended milk to be refrigerated, then why do human babies drink body temperature milk directly from their mother? 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